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cardine45



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Alcohol gluten free Reply with quote

i-geek wrote:
cardine45 wrote:
taszoo wrote:
All wine (red and white) is gluten free and you can buy some really nice gluten free beers.


I've heard before that you do have to check out wine, and I never believed it until I heard our local brewery has barley based wine or something like that. I haven't had time to check into it, and I have no idea what they meant. I've never had a problem with wine, but I haven't been drinking much of it lately anyway.

Has anyone ever heard of this?


Barley wines are usually marketed as beers as really, the only difference between them and standard beer is the alcohol content. There is a HUGE difference between them and grape/fruit wines. You won't mistake one for the other- barley wines smell like beer.


Thank you Jen. I never noticed this response before. I asked my boyfriend about it, and he confirmed that the "Barley Wine" is essentially beer, and there is no way I would mistake it for wine. Good to know!


Queenbean: I always double check to confirm, but as far as I understand it, all distilled alcohols are gluten free unless something is added after the distillation process. I'm sure someone else will chime in with information to back this up.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the ten years I've been GF now I've gotten two or three really bad glutenings... one was from an innocent looking bottle of wine. You really do have to watch EVERYTHING you put in your mouth.

Wine Crimes Article
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WIDELY accepted processing practices account for some of the additives in wine. Fining — the practice of using animal proteins such as egg whites to remove impurities — can result in some of those proteins remaining in the wine. The aging of wine in oak barrels adds not only oak tannins but also can leave traces of wheat paste used to make the barrels.


Use of Wheat Gluten as Clarifying Agent of Musts and White Wines

Also what always seems to confuse me is that gliadin is supposedly alcohol soluble... it doesn't make sense to me that there should be any sort of booze that's off limits unless the ratio of alcohol to gliadin isn't high enough - not enough alcohol to properly dissolve the all the gluten.

At any rate, I like rum. Nothing better then a Dark and Stormy using Gosling's Black Seal. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fidissimus wrote:

Wine Crimes Article
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WIDELY accepted processing practices account for some of the additives in wine. Fining — the practice of using animal proteins such as egg whites to remove impurities — can result in some of those proteins remaining in the wine. The aging of wine in oak barrels adds not only oak tannins but also can leave traces of wheat paste used to make the barrels.



AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHH! We were just going to start up the "drink a glass of wine every other day or so" tradition...

hmmmm... I found this page, not great news really but at least maybe some options: http://gfkitchen.server101.com/GFAlcohol.htm#Wine

"The more expensive a wine is the more likely it is barrel aged and that is where you could find gluten. " <- so Wine-in-a-box, here I come... Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of wines that are just fine that aren't the bottom shelf either... you just need to call and find out. However it's not always easy getting in touch with anyone at the winery who knows. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that instead of wine or gf beer I am drinking JD and Woodchuck cider. They just came out with Woodchuck cider with harvest and omg is it good!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've learned from trial and error that some wines are ok and some are not. Some that bother me are imported, some are not. Since I react to yeasts, that is the most likely problem for me.

I am at the point where all alcohol has negative effects - beyond the normal hangover-y stuff, so I am hesitant to drink at all. Which really blows. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nancw wrote:
I've learned from trial and error that some wines are ok and some are not. Some that bother me are imported, some are not. Since I react to yeasts, that is the most likely problem for me.

I am at the point where all alcohol has negative effects - beyond the normal hangover-y stuff, so I am hesitant to drink at all. Which really blows. Sad


I actually have a 'tender to touch' stomach after a hangover. My liver is fine, my stomach becomes inflamed. So, I only drink ....twice, maybe three times a year.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re: distilled liquor being GF

I know the distillation process prevents gluten from being passed to the distilled alcohol, but if it's distilled from wheat (rye, barley, etc...) then it still has a risk of CC b/c it falls into the category of a food 'processed in a facility that also processes wheat.' So for those of us who have a bad enough reaction that we stick to foods from gluten free lines or facilities, because one mistake is far too unpleasant, I would think we'd likely want to avoid liquor distilled from gluten grains, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a liquor expert but I did look into making my own wine, beer, and liquor. It is not legal to make your own liquor in the US.

- In the "old days" rum was made from mainly sugar cane. Sugar cane grew well in the tropics so that's where most of the rum was made. Who knows how they make it now.

- "Malt liquor" is made from a grain like barley, and so has gluten in it. I thought many whiskies were made from malt, but maybe I'm thinking of scotch whiskey.

- Other whiskeys are often made with corn, because corn has enough sugar in it to be fermented.

I thought vodka was made from potatoes. When you ferment the sugar in potatoes, you get vodka. When you ferment corn or malt, you get whiskey. When you ferment sugar cane you get rum. But maybe my info is more historical in nature.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>>>I thought vodka was made from potatoes. When you ferment the sugar in potatoes, you get vodka. When you ferment corn or malt, you get whiskey.

Vodka can be made from wheat, rye, corn, or potatoes (sadly). I thought it was just potatoes, too, until I started looking. I found it harder than I would have thought to track down potato vodka, actually.

Whiskey can be made from wheat, too (I swear, sometimes it feels like next they'll make our toothbrushes and plates out of wheat. Seems like it's in everything else, eh? Wink) . I believe malt whiskey is made from barley.
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