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teacherpat Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Posts: 462 Location: PDX	Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: ^What he said bbillcee
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Home-Based-Mom Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 697 Location: California	Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: FWIW, you can't peel the topping off the pizza crust either. I learned that the hard way. _________________ Sandi ~ learning to live in a world obsessed and infested with wheat. DQ2/DQ8 "If it wasn't food 100 years ago, it isn't food now." Mike Huckabee Support Operation Christmas Child
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teacherpat Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Posts: 462 Location: PDX	Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:52 am    Post subject: Home-Based-Mom wrote: FWIW, you can't peel the topping off the pizza crust either. I learned that the hard way. Oh God, I'm sorry you tried that. The very thought makes me queasy from here There is quite a learning curve...but we get there!
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Home-Based-Mom Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 697 Location: California	Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: It was at the very beginning, Pat. It did make me very aware of cross contamination, though! I thought of another way to explain cc to people: Your cat has cat hair naturally because it's a cat. Your couch is naturally cat-hair free. But after your cat naps on the couch, you couch has lots of cat hair. Then your formally cat-hair free clothes pick up cat hair when you sit on the couch. Then you hug a family member and transfer cat hair to them before getting into your car where you get cat hair on the car seat. And on and on and on. Your cat may have never been in your car, and your couch certainly has never been in your car, but through the magic of cross contamination, there is now cat hair in your car. It is also everywhere else you went, and everywhere else your family member went as well. FWIW, I once supervised an employee who was forever going home sick. It was very annoying, but at the same time I could tell that he really wasn't feeling well at all. I finally figured out it was his severe cat allergy that was reacting to the cat hair on the clothes of another employee! _________________ Sandi ~ learning to live in a world obsessed and infested with wheat. DQ2/DQ8 "If it wasn't food 100 years ago, it isn't food now." Mike Huckabee Support Operation Christmas Child
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cardine45 Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 632 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Home-Based-Mom wrote: Your cat may have never been in your car, and your couch certainly has never been in your car, but through the magic of cross contamination, there is now cat hair in your car. It is also everywhere else you went, and everywhere else your family member went as well. I love this explanation! It's perfect for me because even my work chair is full of pet hair, and I can guarantee I've never brought them with to work, but I can show people the pet hair and explain that's why no one can use my desk.
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DanyD Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 162	Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: cardine45 wrote: Home-Based-Mom wrote: Your cat may have never been in your car, and your couch certainly has never been in your car, but through the magic of cross contamination, there is now cat hair in your car. It is also everywhere else you went, and everywhere else your family member went as well. I love this explanation! It's perfect for me because even my work chair is full of pet hair, and I can guarantee I've never brought them with to work, but I can show people the pet hair and explain that's why no one can use my desk. Yes I agree, its very well said. Cross-contamination is when gluten-free food comes into contact with food that does contain gluten. Unfortunately, there are many ways for cross-contamination to happen in homes and restaurants. Here's some things to remember to avoid it: - Don’t prepare gluten-free foods on the same surface used to prepare foods with gluten unless the surface has been thoroughly cleaned.In restaurants, ask the chef to wipe down the grill before preparing your order. - Make sure utensils have been thoroughly cleaned after preparing gluten-containing foods. Even better, have separate sets of utensils for gluten-free food preparation. - Don’t use the same toaster for gluten-free bread and regular bread. If your home isn't entirely gluten-free and you can only have one toaster, try to make it a toaster oven and get extra trays from the manufacturer for gluten-free toasting. - Don’t use the same sifter for gluten-free and regular flours. Clearly label the gluten-free sifter to avoid mistakes. - Don’t deep-fry gluten-free foods in the same oil used to fry breaded items. This is a particular risk in restaurants. You'll need to ask whether breaded and unbreaded items are fried in the same oil. - Watch out for crumbs in spreadable condiments (such as jellies, butter, cream cheese and dips) being shared in a household. Either have a duplicate container for the celiac person, or make sure the non-celiacs always dip into the container with a clean knife. (In our house, we put a clean knife out with each condiment, and my wife and daughter use the clean knife to put some of the condiment first onto their plates, and then they use their own knives for spreading it onto their bread.) - Avoid using gluten-containing flours in kitchens where gluten-free food is prepared. Wheat flour can stay airborne for many hours and contaminate surfaces, utensils, and uncovered gluten-free food. In general, foods prepared in any place that is not gluten-free are at risk for contamination (for example, when equipment is inadequately cleaned after producing gluten-containing foods). I found these useful info in Code: http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/cookingglutenfree/a/crosscontaminat.htm _________________ Gluten free bread | Katz gluten free bread
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Elistariel Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 10	Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Crap. I'm going to have to buy a new toaster, but what do I do with the one I already have? I'm the only one who uses it. How much do toasters cost anyhow? I don't know if I'm celiac, gluten intolerant or what. I can't afford to be tested just yet. Plus I've got a genetic thingy coming in. I'm still fairly new to this GF diet and being unemployed have to eat out. I tag along with family and they pay. I just learned yesterday that one of my favorite places only has marinated chicken. Why they can't just NOT put the marinade on it is beyond me, but whatever. So now the side veggies are all I can eat there. I drive my family bonkers and there are tired of me beating a dead horse when I try to decide what I want. So, all that said, how do I ask about gluten cross contamination in a restaurant without sounding like a food prick?
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smalltownslackermom Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 721 Location: mid north american continent	Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: Elistariel wrote: Crap. I'm going to have to buy a new toaster, but what do I do with the one I already have? I'm the only one who uses it. How much do toasters cost anyhow? I paid about $20 for a toaster at Target. Quote: I don't know if I'm celiac, gluten intolerant or what. I can't afford to be tested just yet. Plus I've got a genetic thingy coming in. I'm still fairly new to this GF diet and being unemployed have to eat out. I tag along with family and they pay. I just learned yesterday that one of my favorite places only has marinated chicken. Why they can't just NOT put the marinade on it is beyond me, but whatever. So now the side veggies are all I can eat there. I drive my family bonkers and there are tired of me beating a dead horse when I try to decide what I want. So, all that said, how do I ask about gluten cross contamination in a restaurant without sounding like a food prick? I call ahead during off hours and speak with whoever I need to. That takes some of the pressure off of the moment and I bet your family would appreciate that it's all taken care of. If you're regulars there too you could maybe get a safe standard meal that you have there and then it would be easy for everyone involved. http://www.okceliac.com/restaurants.php _________________ son - high ttg - 4/09, pos. biopsy 5/09 self - negative bloodwork 5/09, pos. biopsy 11/09 sister - gf for ~3 years and is a new person niece - positive ttg 2/10, foregoing biopsy
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celiacmaine-iac Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 2132 Location: Maine	Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Elistariel wrote: I just learned yesterday that one of my favorite places only has marinated chicken. Why they can't just NOT put the marinade on it is beyond me, but whatever. So, all that said, how do I ask about gluten cross contamination in a restaurant without sounding like a food prick? Chicken with a marinade might be safe. You would have to ask what the marinade ingredients are to be sure. The biggest red flag with marinades would be soy sauce, but there could be other gluten-containing ingredients as well. Also if they cook the chicken on a grill with non-GF foods, you could ask them to cook your chicken on a piece of foil to prevent CC. As far as asking about CC in a restaurant; if you can, call the restaurant ahead of time to verify that they can serve you a safe meal. If you get any bad vibes from the phone call, pick another restaurant. If you can't call ahead, make sure you ask your questions politely, and as discreetly as possible. Just be matter of fact in your explanation of what you need. If you are not satisfied with their answers, order what you know is safe even if it is just salad or veggies. If anyone you are with makes a fuss about you not eating, just tell them you are there to enjoy their company first, and that food is not the focus for you. You can always keep a GF snack in your bag or pocket that will tide you over until you can get something safe. _________________ Steph
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KelleherCJ Joined: 25 Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Newprt, NC	Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:07 am    Post subject: After reading some of these posts, I have a few questions. I have only been official with Celiac for about 2 weeks now and we are slowly going through and changing out the food. My wife is NGF and we will find in a few hours if our son is or is not. So we figure we will be switching the majority of the cooking to GF, and snacks will be keep separate. I am wondering about replacing things, If we have stainless steel pans, Bamboo Utensils and a combo of Wood and Plastic Cutting Boards. We put everything but the pans through the dishwasher. Replacing the toaster is not really a big cost, but having to buy new pans, utensils, and cutting boards would be a high cost, now I am one in the house that does the majority of the cooking, so i am wondering, does the dishwasher remove the gluten enough that if most of the things that will be used on and in them from now on will be GF or should things start to be replaced and how important is it. The only signs are the stomach issues and those are compounded by other medical issues. I know in the long run, having Gluten is not the best, but how much is there really in those items after they get run though a dishwasher
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Deb Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 683 Location: Long Island, New York	Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Do the pans have teflon and scratches? You shouldn't use them if they do. I didn't replace my Club Aluminum pans, I have had them for over 30 yrs..I did replace the teflon pans. The wooden cutting boards will be an issue. You can't clean them well enough to get the old gluten off, I wouldn't trust them...same for wooden and plastic utensils...can't be trusted. I don't think keeping the bamboo utensils is a good idea either. Gluten gets into cracks, and dishwashers can not remove all of it. It's better to be safe, than sorry. _________________ You can't discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore!
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Home-Based-Mom Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 697 Location: California	Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: What Deb said. You can put foil over the cutting board, or cup/chop things on a plate. _________________ Sandi ~ learning to live in a world obsessed and infested with wheat. DQ2/DQ8 "If it wasn't food 100 years ago, it isn't food now." Mike Huckabee Support Operation Christmas Child
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