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ostrich



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great run-down Jenn! I'm sure that'll be a big help to others. And at least the actual procedure wasn't so bad. I agree with you on the doc. I'd give him what-for too. Did he even say why he thinks all those symptoms are connected to CD? Now that you're home are you feeling any better, stomach-wise?

(BTW, be careful if you lose your inhibitions easily. Apparently after injecting me with the anesthetic I looked like an owl, blinking and waving at random people. I don't remember anything except the initial burn of the meds.)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the thread aklap. My doc said they can't give a general anaesthetic, they give a sedative. I wouldn't be nearly so scared if I was being put right out. Is Fidissimus describing a sedative - it sounds like a general anaesthetic. I'm in the UK - is it different in the States?

It's the bit where they numb your throat, and put the mouthguard in that's really frightening me. I know at that moment I'll be powerless to stop anything. My appointment isn't till after Christmas, so I've got all the holidays to worry about it. And my blood test was normal so there probably won't be anything to see - not sure why the specialist is so sure it is CD. I'd gladly mortgage my house to pay for a general anaesthetic if I could get a doctor who'd do it.

I'm going to print out this thread and read it again, in the hope I can calm myself down - I know it's stupid and probably everyone else is having far worse things to deal with, but so far I can't pull myself together.

Thanks again for directing me to this thread. It does help to think other people were just as terrified, but came through it. One more question - when you come round after the procedure is your throat still paralysed or can you swallow again?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no problems swallowing. I don't even think I has a sore throat - then again it was over 5 years ago, so I may have forgotten some of the small details.

Try not to stress about it, that only makes things worse.

We'll all be pulling for you! If you think it, please stop back and give us an update after the procedure, OK?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackbird - the type of process used for an endoscopy(at lest here in the US) is referred to as Conscious Sedation. You are awake enough to listen and follow instructions, but you are not feeling pain and do not remember anything. The combination of dugs they use cause a retrograde amnesia. Your throat is never paralyzed (mine wasn't anyway), they spray the throat to supress the gag reflex.

I mean it when I tell you that the anticipation is the worst part. I had an endoscopy done on my then 6-year-old son. I would never have done that if I had not been through so many myself and known that they were really not that hard. 99% of the people I have ever talked to have told me that the endoscopy was not a big deal (the anticipation is a killer Very Happy ). I know it is scary since you have never had it done before, but really you will be fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much for your support. I'm very much alone here. The itchy rash is so severe I don't sleep, and that's when my mind starts imagining. Waiting till January is the worst part. If you don't mind, I'll keep on coming here, to get it off my mind. Someone had told me that the spray on the back of your throat means you can't swallow - it's a sort of phobia of mine. Thanks again for the reassurances.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does your doctor think your rash is Dermatitis Herpeteformis? If so, you may be able to be diagnosed through a skin scrape biopsy. People with DH sometimes do not have damage to the villi that can be found in an endoscopy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very interesting cruelshoes. I was referred to the gastroenterologist because of chronic indigestion. A scan showed gallstones - tho my symptoms were actually made worse by high fibre foods than by fatty meals. Anyway I had a gallbladder op a couple of years ago. I gradually developed severe diarrhoea. As a result of tests it was shown I had malabsorption, which the doc said was the result of the gallbladder surgery and was not uncommon. It has since dominated my life, but I thought I just had to put up with it. They did a coeliac blood test as routine, and it was normal. So far nothing has worked.
However about a month ago I developed this terrible rash. My GP (family doctor) said it was psoriasis. It's the itchiest thing I've ever known, and is now also very painful, as it's cracking and scabbing. I seldom sleep for more than a couple of hours. I've tried every cream the GP has given, and none worked. The rash has spread from my hands upwards, down my chest, and is now on my stomach. Just by chance I mentioned it to the gastroenterologist at my routine appointment and he said it looked like a coeliac rash, and that is why he's doing the gastroscopy. He did say the blood test had been normal, and it's about 99% accurate - so I'm not sure why he's doing the test.
The combination of the diarrhoea, which occurs unpredictably through the day, and this terrible rash, is making life unbearable - I'm so depressed I can't believe it's me. Part of me wants the doc to find CD as at least there'd be a light at the end of the tunnel. I just wish it could be done without having this procedure. He didn't mention a skin test.
It's good to have this forum to talk about it. I'm grateful to you all.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colleen wrote:
People with DH sometimes do not have damage to the villi that can be found in an endoscopy.

If memory serves me correctly, I think it's around 20%. Thanks for bringing that up C. I was going to post that and forgot. That was the first thing that came to mind when I read blackbird's post.

Blackbird- Any chance your gastro would consider allowing you to have the skin biopsy first? If that is positive you would be automatically dx'd with CD if medical protocols are the same as they are in the U.S. It's actually a punch biopsy that they do, but it is a painless procedure after they numb the skin. Now, even if you do have a positive skin biopsy they might still want to do the endo to see if there is villi damage as well, and what the severity is.

I can understand how miserable you are. Before I went GF I was sleeping only about 2 hours a night because the itching was so unbearable. I had rash on my fore arms, shins, knees, back, buttocks, and abdomen. Like you, nothing helped the itching. I had literally clawed the skin off my body. And I had normal bloodwork, normal endo, and normal skin biopsy, but when my doc saw how dramatically I responded to a GF diet she diagnosed me with CD anyway. She was able to see the big picture, in that my family has a high percentage of people dx'd with CD, so when she saw my improvement after going GF she was convinced.

Good luck, and let me add that the endo is a pretty easy test to go through. The anticipation is the worst part. Keep us posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in England they prefer to just give a local. which is sprayed to the back of your mouth and your awake through it all
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was pretty nervous before my endoscopy, but it was a breeze! i don't remember getting the spray. last thing for me was the mouth guard thing....the worst part was getting blood drawn after. i'm fine with needles, no big deal. but the woman that drew my blood was so brutal! the pinch was extremely powerful. that was two days ago and i now have a nice green bruise and it's tender when i bend my arm....rude.

i have a colonoscopy this coming thursday, the 6th. i wonder if i can just confince them to do another endoscopy......? Very Happy
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