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luvscowznh Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 329 Location: Groton, MA	Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: celiacmaine-iac wrote: I think it's wise to avoid gluten in any form, even personal care products, because there is just too much risk of putting your hands near your mouth after using these products. There are a lot of anecdotal reports of people reacting to topical gluten exposure, myself included. Just because the science hasn't proven it yet, doesn't mean something can't be true. That's why we have scientific discoveries made every day. Too many people on this board know how unreliable the science can be at times. I'm not saying Dr Green is wrong, I'm just saying that maybe everything about this hasn't been discovered yet. I do believe that getting DH is a direct result of ingestion of gluten. I just wonder if some people with gluten intolerance can have their symptoms exacerbated by touching gluten. As far as I'm concerned I'm not going near gluten in any form. I'm with you, Steph! I even avoid gluten containing paper products since I have had a reaction with those as well. I'd rather be extreme than sick. Not everyone has to go this route though. Just saying what works for me. I also believe that just because science hasn't proved it, doesn't mean it's true. There's so much we don't know about how the body works. --Manda _________________
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Noatak Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 494 Location: Massachusetts	Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Celiacmaine-iac...yes, Dh is directly caused by ingestion of gluten into the intestinal tract. You basically have the skin reaction to gluten and, according to Dr. Green, can ONLY be caused by ingestion of gluten. My point was to give more information that may help people base their lifestyles on solid, medical fact and not make the diet any harder for those that are having a problem with it. As Edifying Conscience stated, I also am strict about lipstick or anything else that goes on the lips but you don't have to be that wary of topical skin products unless you feel you will ingest enough to cause a reaction or you have other sensitivities that cause a break-out. It is possible to have an allergy on top of CD and that may explain any problems. If you do experience a problem from a topical product, Dr. Green is adamant about seeing an allergist and not to become confused and blame it on gluten containing products. It's another piece of good information people should consider when making choices instead of blaming everything on gluten because that's going to make things much more difficult, when it may not have to be. Also, if people have their blood work repeated on a regular basis, that will tell you if you are ingesting gluten. Al....I am not sure why the topic of gluten being absorbed through the skin would be debated because it's pretty basic science. Many medications are formulated for absorption through the skin.....medical science knows how it's done so why all the debate about gluten is beyond me. I am basing my beliefs on the fact that I have read and learned the latest science on CD and from personal experience, have found this to be true. I don't think people need to fear gluten.....know the facts on how you can become exposed at unacceptable levels and work with that. I see and talk to so many people that are having such a hard time with it all and there is no need to.....with some effort and time, anyone can live gluten free successfully without it being a major hardship. I still would recommend this book because it has some excellent information in it that all Celiacs and gluten sensitive folks should know. I know most here will only recognize information from a valid source and this is why I brought it up.....it doesn't get more valid than this. People can still choose to avoid all gluten but if a problem develops, don't automatically think it's from gluten. Most Celiacs have a problem with other allergies also so it's something to consider.
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Luv2Dance Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado	Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: tropheyboys wrote: Luv2dance, I have a quick question about your IgE and IgG tests. I had the IgG done and found out that I was allergic to just about everything. This was done by my Dr. who is really into the more natural stuff. I was depressed but started to change my diet. I then took my son to an allergist and then went back for myself and he said that IgG levels were not accurate and that I needed to do the IgE levels. So I then called my Dr. and told her I wanted those done and she said that it wasn't necessary because it is a debate and she feels strongly about her side and he believes his research is right. What did you find between the tests did they reveal the same findings or is one really better than the other? Sorry so Long I just happened to read this and wanted to ask. Sorry it took me so long to respond to this. I do not statistically or scientificly know the answer to this question. What my doctor said is that the IgE anti-bodies are the ones that show up right away. They are the kind that show up so fast if you are allergic to something, that it can cause an anaphylactic reaction. The IgG anit-bodies take many many hours to show up, and do not results in anaphalaxis. Most doctors do not test for IgE because if a person is anaphylactic allergic to something, they usually know by default, i.e. ate it once and had a very severe reaction. I did not realize that the top of my tests said IgE and IgG test, but I was ONLY tested for IgG. I thought it was both since the test said both. Sorry to cause any confusion.
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