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cruelshoes



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: CF diet - I'm not sure how much longer I can do this Reply with quote

Sean has been completely CF since 1/15. His Neurologist asked that we put him on a CF diet to see if it helps with his small motor coordination disorder. I am scrutinizing everything that comes into the house and goes into his mouth.

We have seen absolutely no change in Sean's coordination, behavior or moods. He is exactly the same kid he was before we started, only with a more restricted diet. He is frustrated. He said to me the other day "mom - this isn't helping me at all. I still can't write." I am frustrated because I knew it wasn't going to help. But I told the neurologist I would try it until our next appointment on 3/5.

This post has no point other than to say I'm not sure I can keep this up until 3/5. This sucks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colleen, I know I would be pulling my hair out, too! You are stressed about your son and adding the CF issue compounds the stress. I can see where it would be very frustrating.

Hang in there! You only have a couple more weeks to go!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Colleen,

I feel your pain. When I cut out dairy/casein I had an immediate improvement in sx's. Now, I did take out a corn, beans, nightshades and dairy all at the same time so it was hard to say "I feel better because I'm not consuming dairy". On the other hand, now, when I do get dairy via cc or just "I'm sick of dairy free so I'll take my chances" I definitely feel really bad. Of course, I'm not cutting it out for same reasons your son is, so all I can do is offer you support and hope that you do find out if any dietary restrictions help.
My understanding is that it can take many, many weeks to see improvement from removal of dairy. Hang in there for a couple more weeks. Maybe it isn't an issue - the only one who will really know is your son.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: CF diet - I'm not sure how much longer I can do this Reply with quote

cruelshoes wrote:
Sean has been completely CF since 1/15. His Neurologist asked that we put him on a CF diet to see if it helps with his small motor coordination disorder. I am scrutinizing everything that comes into the house and goes into his mouth.

We have seen absolutely no change in Sean's coordination, behavior or moods. He is exactly the same kid he was before we started, only with a more restricted diet. He is frustrated. He said to me the other day "mom - this isn't helping me at all. I still can't write." I am frustrated because I knew it wasn't going to help. But I told the neurologist I would try it until our next appointment on 3/5.

This post has no point other than to say I'm not sure I can keep this up until 3/5. This sucks.

Sorry, Colleen, I haven't been online for a while, but this jumped out at me: "I still can't write." CAN he write, or does he just hate to? I'm asking because last year a lady I know mentioned her son had been diagnosed with "reluctant graphology". I couldn't find anything on google about it, but she mentioned that her son hates writing. During math he won't write out how he solved the problem, just writes down the answer, making it difficult for teachers to help him discover where he went wrong, etc. I don't know if it's a neurological thing or not, but I suppose it's something to ask about.

Good luck. And I hope you mean March 5 and not May 3. March 5 is much closer.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear this Colleen. Unfortunately neurological issues [which this might be] can be slow to correct themselves. One month, may not be anywhere near enough time to tell. It may take months or years to see improvements.

Keep at it...I know it can't be easy!

Hugs to you and Sean!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colleen, I am sorry it is so stressful for you and your son. I am also hoping that it is March 5 and not May 3!!! I hope you get some answers soon.



ISTO......... somehow I missed that congratulations are in order. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsppmrxky wrote:

ISTO......... somehow I missed that congratulations are in order. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!


Thank you, Mrs. P! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: CF diet - I'm not sure how much longer I can do this Reply with quote

Linda wrote:
Sorry, Colleen, I haven't been online for a while, but this jumped out at me: "I still can't write." CAN he write, or does he just hate to? I'm asking because last year a lady I know mentioned her son had been diagnosed with "reluctant graphology". I couldn't find anything on google about it, but she mentioned that her son hates writing. During math he won't write out how he solved the problem, just writes down the answer, making it difficult for teachers to help him discover where he went wrong, etc. I don't know if it's a neurological thing or not, but I suppose it's something to ask about.


Sean doesn't mind writing, in fact he seems to enjoy it, but he gets fatigued very quickly, and has a great deal of trouble with letter formation. Some of it is bad habits to compensate for how hard it is for him to hold the pencil. But a lot of it is that he just doesn't have the strength or coordination to write clearly. He has trouble with all small motor tasks like buttons and tying shoes. The Neuro says he definitely has some kind of neurological problem that may or may not need treatment, but wanted to try the diet out first to see if it helps.

Thanks for the support, everybody. I really didn't want to hear that it can take a long time to see results from removing dairy. I just got such a quick indication that things were working when I took gluten out of our diet that I hoped dairy would be the same. It's hard to keep up the momentum without seeing results. At least we only have 10 days until we see the doctor again. My husband says he is ready to give up now, but I made a commitment to the doctor that I would try it. I don't want to be one of those mothers that don't follow through with what the doctor says just becaue it's inconvenient and hard.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colleen, maybe have him try writing with a pen or pencil that's short. Half the usual size, the size of a crayon. I know a girl with Down Syndrome and she finds it much easier to print with a small pencil than a full sized one. Also, some kids find it easier to hold a pencil if they have a pencil grip at the bottom. They are usually triangular and made of hard foam.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But a lot of it is that he just doesn't have the strength or coordination to write clearly. He has trouble with all small motor tasks like buttons and tying shoes.

Has he ever been referred to an occupational therapist? If not, I'd definitely ask his doc for a referral. They can help with a lot of the fine motor problems that Sean is having. They have a lot of adaptive tools, techniques, etc. They might be able to help him function better while you work toward answers.

Hang in there. This must be so difficult.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second what Steph said above. Hang in there Colleen! Even if it doesn't work, at least you can say you tried the diet for the full extent of time. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this would help or not Colleen. When my MIL was going to therapy after her fall that hurt her hand (among other things) they had her do a fine motor skills exercise that she said sounds so easy but is so frustratingly difficult, but it helped.

They have a huge box of rice and they had about 20-25 small object hidden in the rice that she had to find one hand at the time. (paperclip, penny, a jack, marble and so on.) Once she found them all with one hand, they put them in and hid them again for her to find with the other hand.

I was to strengthen her fingers so that she could write and type.

I would think therapy would be a good place to start also.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just got back from the Neurologist. He agreed with us that if we haven't seen any changes by now, there probably aren't going to be any. He suggested introducing dairy back in and see if we see any negative changes. He said that sometimes changes are so subtle that you don't notice them until you introduce the offensive ingredient back in.

I can't decide what dairy filled item to make for dinner. Mac and Cheese? Cheese Enchiladas? Ice cream sundaes with whipped cream and a stick of butter on top!?!?!?!?

Thanks for the support, ladies and gents. I couldn't have made it through without your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruelshoes wrote:
He said that sometimes changes are so subtle that you don't notice them until you introduce the offensive ingredient back in.


Been there, done that! Wink

cruelshoes wrote:
I can't decide what dairy filled item to make for dinner. Mac and Cheese? Cheese Enchiladas? Ice cream sundaes with whipped cream and a stick of butter on top!?!?!?!?

Heck - why choose - make 'em all!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote for the ice cream sundae myself, but I'll pass on the stick of butter. Very Happy
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