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digmom1014 Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 34	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Was it the blue cheese? I am new to this, one week, and I thought I was doing okay. Well-I totally glutenated myself at lunch today. We went to Lone Star steakhouse and I had the prime rib with a baked potato. However, I had the lettuce wedge with blue cheese dressing. This was it? Wasn't it? I am in sales and have to eat out constantly. I can't have this happen in front of a client! So, if anyone has any ideas... Thanks- Sarah
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The Edifying Conscience Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 2484	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was cross contamination not the cheese. If you eat out constantly in front of clients you will most likely get sick...prepare yourself.
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digmom1014 Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 34	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Oh great!~ Thanks for the help. I thought I was doing so well by my order. I am not a red-meat eater by design but everything else had sauces, etc. Anyone else have to eat out all the time? Sarah
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nancw Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 910 Location: Denver, CO	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: I have heard that bleu cheese is not safe because the mold (the blue) is grown on bread. I do no have an official citation on this. It could have also been cross contamination. I am grateful that I do not have to eat out all the time. What a nightmare! _________________ Nance gluten, dairy, soy, rice, yeast and 99% grain-free
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aklap Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8794 Location: WI, USA	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Some Bleu cheese are GF, some are not. You could've gotten CC'ed AND Bleu cheesed. _________________ Al “We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa
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Fidissimus Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 1603 Location: Portland, OR.	Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: The Edifying Conscience wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was cross contamination not the cheese. If you eat out constantly in front of clients you will most likely get sick...prepare yourself. I agree with TEC (I usually do! ) You might want to ask for "naked" food. Also steak is a tricky one as they often add flour to the cooking juices and then pour that over the steak before they serve it. (I learned that one the hard way) Yikes! Sorry you got sick too. On a silly note, when I first saw your post, it went a little like this in my head, "It was the blue cheese, who did it with the gun in the kitchen". Yes, I'm a dorky Clue fan. _________________ Cheers! Jenn GF BD: Feb. 2001 Free of wheat, barley, rye, oats, dairy, eggs, almonds, pineapple and brewers yeast. http://graindamaged.blogspot.com/
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Kathie Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 772 Location: Florida	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Some places inject there steaks to make them moist (Ruby Tuesday's for one), also prime rib can sometimes be rolled in flour and seasoning before cooking, the au jus usually is not gluten free as well. _________________ CD by Biopsy 3/25/88
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cruelshoes Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 2687 Location: Washington State	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Was it the blue cheese? digmom1014 wrote: I am new to this, one week, and I thought I was doing okay. Well-I totally glutenated myself at lunch today. We went to Lone Star steakhouse and I had the prime rib with a baked potato. However, I had the lettuce wedge with blue cheese dressing. This was it? Wasn't it? I am in sales and have to eat out constantly. I can't have this happen in front of a client! So, if anyone has any ideas... Thanks- Sarah I looked at the GF menu for the Lonestar Steakhouse, and it states that you must order the baked potato dry, without any butter or sour cream. It also recommends that one not order the bleu cheese dressing, and says that the steak must be ordered without seasoning or sauces. Did you do these things? If not, I don't think this was a case of cross-contamination, I think it was an outright gluten exposure. If one eats out frequently, the chances of geting gluten exposure increase exponentially. I do not say this to make you feel bad. I am only saying that the more other people have control over how our food is prepared, the more chances we have to get gluten. If I were in a position that required that I eat out frequently, I would take the following steps. Make a list of all the restaurants that I were likely (or unlikely!) to go. Visit the website for each, and learn as much as I could about what each place serves. If there is a GF menu, bookmark it. If there isn't a GF menu, email and/or call the restaurant and see if anything can be prepared safely. Compile all these things either in hardcopy form in a looseleaf binder, or save them to your PDA. That way you don't have to rely on memory. When it comes time to choose a place to eat, subtly steer the conversation to a place you know has safer food. If you can't, wherever you go, ask for a plain salad prepared in a fresh bowl and bring your own dressing. You can get indivisual sized packages from lots of places including http://www.minimus.biz/. If the client asks why you are doing this, brezily mention that you have some food allergies and you always order like that. Then change the subject. If you go to a place that cannot accomodate you, order iced tea or water and eat a Larabar or something that you remembered to bring with you. If this is a job you like, there are ways to make eating out safer, but it will never be completely safe. If it isn't a job you like, I would try to switch to a career that did not require as much dining out. I hope this has given you some ideas. Don't be too hard on yourself. This happens to a lot of people when they first start. _________________ -Colleen Dx 8/05 via bloodwork/biopsy 10-YO son Dx 11/05 via bloodwork/biopsy Daughters (12 and 2) have neg. bloodwork A woman is like a tea bag-you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water. - Eleanor Roosevelt
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aklap Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8794 Location: WI, USA	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Was it the blue cheese? cruelshoes wrote: It also recommends that one not order the bleu cheese dressing, and says that the steak must be ordered without seasoning or sauces. Did you do these things? If not, I don't think this was a case of cross-contamination, I think it was an outright gluten exposure. I don't know how they cook their prime rib...but if their seasonings are NOT GF, this would contaminate the grill - thus contaminating even a GF piece of meat. _________________ Al “We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa Last edited by aklap on Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:06 pm; edited 2 times in total
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cruelshoes Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 2687 Location: Washington State	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Was it the blue cheese? aklap wrote: cruelshoes wrote: It also recommends that one not order the bleu cheese dressing, and says that the steak must be ordered without seasoning or sauces. Did you do these things? If not, I don't think this was a case of cross-contamination, I think it was an outright gluten exposure. I don't know how they cook their prime rib...but if their seasonings are GF, this would contaminate the grill - this contaminating even a GF piece of meat. Good point, Al. The prime rib isn't even on the GF menu, so that's probably another problem with the meal. I don't order beef in restaurants very often, so I didn't even think about that part. I think you mean if the seasonings aren't GF above, right? If not, I must be reading it wrong. _________________ -Colleen Dx 8/05 via bloodwork/biopsy 10-YO son Dx 11/05 via bloodwork/biopsy Daughters (12 and 2) have neg. bloodwork A woman is like a tea bag-you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water. - Eleanor Roosevelt
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aklap Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8794 Location: WI, USA	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: You read it correctly, I wrote it wrong. I corrected my typo! Thanks! Prime rib generally comes with au jus - most times au jus is not GF - which may be pour on top or exposed to the meat at sometime. I guess you have to check with the resto. Unless i know the place, I will stay away from steak and go for seafood options. Crab legs is a good one. Broiled Salmon [w/o seasonings] is a another good one. It can be broiled on it's own platter. _________________ Al “We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa
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Fidissimus Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 1603 Location: Portland, OR.	Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Ooo! Plank Salmon! Bring it on! _________________ Cheers! Jenn GF BD: Feb. 2001 Free of wheat, barley, rye, oats, dairy, eggs, almonds, pineapple and brewers yeast. http://graindamaged.blogspot.com/
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digmom1014 Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 34	Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Thank you everyone for your thoughts-I have started a book and it even included some fast food places that haven't given me a reaction. I can e-mail someone if they need to go out, as I see on the board you don't make mention of places. I eat out almost everyday and I love my job so, it is just trial and error right now! Sarah
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aklap Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8794 Location: WI, USA	Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: HI Sarah, If you dig thru this Dining out forum, you'll see suggestions of restaurants. Here's one site that has lots of chain restos http://www.kintera.org/site/pp.asp?c=ewK0LjP7E&b=34744 _________________ Al “We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa
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